Moses

See also: Ten Primordial Masters

Excerpts

So if you have to be a truthful person, just a truthful person, do not feel guilty about it. Do not feel you have committed sin. There’s a little story in India that one missionary came to a village in India. Indian people are in the villages very simple, you know, they are not so sophisticated. So when he was going, they praised him a lot, "Sir, we are thankful to you that you have told us what is sin and that we are sinners." They didn’t know they were sinning. And this is one of the things that Blake brought forth for us to show that Christ was a person who brought a new message over Moses. Of course, Moses was needed at the time when Jews had to come up, that was the time they needed it and He brought these sharia laws; it was Moses who started but Muslims are following them. (...)

Here the Guru tattwa is expressed in the Void, there, where the ten Gurus actually incarnated basically and they reincarnated. Say we can start from Adi Nath, then we can come to other ones like Nanaka, Janaka. Janaka was much earlier, then we can say Abraham, Moses. All these were Guru tattwa, Socrates, all these were Guru tattwa people, the people who came as Prophets; the ones who came on this earth to teach us balance, to teach us the code of life. That was also an important part, but that was forgotten. Why? Why the code, why the religion? Religion is for the ascent, to build you up. (1985-11-28)

The innocence of these three aspects of God is made into a personality called Dattatreya or the Primordial Master. He comes on this earth again and again. Especially ten are the main, main incarnations. So He comes again and again on this earth to tell people about their dharma, their religion, their capacity, their quality. That’s their job. That’s why Moses did not talk of an ascent. But that doesn’t mean Moses does not play any part. But one can ask the question that, why, why the balance? Why did He talk of the balance? Why did He talk of the Ten Commandments? For what? I mean, every intelligent man must ask. Every Jew must ask, "For what?" Because without balance, you cannot ascend. I mean, even an airplane have to be a balanced thing to ascend. Anything, I mean even if we are walking, we have to have a balance.

So to establish the balance within us, these people came, again and again, these ten primordial beings, we say. Some on the left-hand side, some on the right-hand side. It’s very symbolic. The whole thing is so wonderful. So now we can say who they were from the very beginning. This is Socrates, Moses, Abraham, Lao Tze, we had Mohammed, Nanak, Janak, and the last of all was Shirdhi Sainath. Shirdhi Sainath, the one who lived in Shirdhi. He is the last incarnation who came. After Mohammed, Nanaka came; after Nanaka, Shirdhi Sainath. All these are the one and the only one principle of Primordial Master who came, and they all said the same thing.

First of all, they were against alcohols, against any kind of an intoxication. But say at the time of Moses they didn’t have cigarettes, you see, so He didn’t say about cigarettes, naturally. They didn’t have. So the people who follow Moses think there’s nothing wrong with cigarettes because He didn’t say. But that time there were no cigarettes, you see. All these sinful things were devised afterward. So they didn’t say what is prohibited now, I don’t know [Shri Mataji laughs] what other sins people are thinking about. That whatever I see I say that "Don’t do this." Supposing you ask Me I’ll say, "Don’t do this." But tomorrow one may say that Mataji didn’t say that: "Don’t do this," because, you see, human beings are good at finding out things by which they destroy themselves. They are experts, you see, how to find out things by which your dharma is destroyed. So whatever at that time, whatever they thought was good, they said: "Don’t do it."

Like Mohammed Sahib said that "Now I will not come any more; is the last prophet," because He thought He’s done the job. But then he found [Shri Mataji laughs] that they are fighting and they are not at all bothered about their ascent or their balancing, but they are going to the other extremes. So He incarnated again as Nanaka, and then as Shirdhi Sainath. So, these incarnations exist within us. They exist within us. (1982-10-29)

If you see historically now, at the time of Moses and Abraham, you see, Moses crossing the bridge, you see this is significant here. This is the void, we call it the void, but Zen for them void is different. So we cross this. In the same way, Moses crossed, through the bridging he did it and this bridging takes place when the Kundalini rises from that triangular bone, and crosses over, then the first bridging takes place. Now one may ask the question there, "Then why did they think like that? Why is it they did not have the right idea about it? Why these mistakes were created, if they were realized, souls?" No doubt they were realized souls. But here the problem was in this country, all these western countries, is that it’s a very individual effort of a person, and traditionally it was not known so much about it. (...)

What happens when the Kundalini rises? Say, it is here in the stomach. Many people who have been to wrong gurus, who have been following wrong things or those who think, "I’m the guru, I know how to do it and I’m the one who has done it," they have to take the name of Moses. Unless and until you take His name it won’t rise, the Kundalini won’t rise. Now when it reaches this point you have to take the name of Christ. Here you have to take the name of Mohammad. Who was Mohammad? Nobody else but Moses Himself was born. You’ll be surprised the Islamic people today are following Shariat.) What is Shariat? If you have read Bible, is the same as written for the Jews. Same thing they are following what is written in the Bible, they are following. We are not following it, but they are following it. Which shows that because when Moses came down be found these people in such a big mess and such a big hell, that he had to make a very, very strict law to pull them out of that hell, and that’s why he gave such strict laws. Actually if you have read the books of the Essenes, I was surprised that many people who have read it showed it to me, that they really, clearly said that the laws were not so strong, but Moses had to make them so strong because people were absolutely hellish and they were going down so rapidly that he made those laws. But surprisingly, they are more followed by the Muslims and imposed on them. (1983-09-16)

The prophets have two special qualities, as all the prophets had: First of all, they have to talk about spiritual education. All of them did that. Mohammed Saheb did it, Raja Janaka did it, Nanaka did it, Moses did it, Abraham did it. All of them prophesied and taught you how to lead yourself on the right path, by the right action, by leading a right life.

You are going to be the prophets of a little different nature. You are prophets, you are Islamic, you are Jews, you are Parsees, you are all those, but you are going to become prophets which are called as "pir‘ in Islam, in Hindu scriptures, it’s called as "Atmasakshatkari’, "Atmajas." In the way Nanaka has described, he calls them "par." But you are endowed with a greater power. There’s more power in you. There they had a bigger propensity. You have another delicate power by which you can raise the Kundalini of people. (...)

Now, all these great incarnations had a special power over water. Because you know, in the stomach we have our Void and Nabhi Chakra which is made of ocean. Ocean represents the incarnation of Adi Guru – Dattatreya. These had great powers over oceans and over water. Like Moses – he crossed the ocean by creating a road. That’s one of the very significant things which shows that the Void can be crossed with the help of the Guru. And even Mohammed Saheb had a tremendous power over the ocean.

Then, Nanaka once put his hand on a rock and water started coming out of that. People were amazed how it started. And that’s why it is called as ‘Punja-saheb’. ‘Punja’ means ‘the hand’. ‘Punja’ means ‘the five fingers’, like this. (...)

Now, another thing about these: all these incarnations had to deal with your attention. So they were particular about looking after your attention. And that is why, from the time Moses or Abraham came in, they talked of no alcoholism. All of them. It is written very clearly in The Bible that the strong alcohols, fermented, should not be taken. If you don’t want to read it, one need not. But they think it was Moses who said it and Christ did not say – so Christians can take it, the Moses people should not take it.

There is no breaking of the link between Moses and Christ. They are of the same tree, of the same pattern, of the same thing. But those who want to use Moses for their own purpose will follow as much as Moses has said, and those who want to follow Christ will follow only as much as Christ has said because it’s very good for them. For such useless people, Sahaja Yoga has no place.

We have to understand that all these people have said for our good and for the maintenance of our spiritual life and none of them are to be criticized or to be challenged but to be fully respected as our Guru. All of them. Whether one belongs to Islam religion or to the Jew religion or to the Christian religion or to the Hindu religion. And if they are fanatic they are going against their guru – it is against their guru. So, they were against fanaticism. (1980-11-23)

We can say Socrates was the one Primordial Master, after Abraham and Moses, who really made it very clear-cut understanding about spirituality. Of course Moses and Mohammad… Abraham had different problems. Like Abraham had problems of talking to people who were really very, very ignorant, and Moses had a problem with people who were very indulgent people, so He had to pass laws of Shariat.

Moses passed the law of Shariat, and if you read Bible, in the – I think – in the first verse only it is written about Shariat in the Jeremiah – the third book of Bible – that Moses had to pass these laws, different, different laws to make the people follow religion precisely. So He did not argue, He did not say why you should do it, didn’t give any explanation. "You do it!" Like that. Because He thought that these people are so ignorant that you cannot leave it to their freedom that you understand this or that you see the point; He could not do that way. So He just said, "All right. These are the laws, these are the things and you have to follow. If you don’t follow then you will be killed, your hands will be cut, this will happen, that will happen." Because the people were of that type.

Now then you see how gradually, at the time of Socrates people had evolved, they were a much better people so He could talk to them about something of wisdom, of honesty, of righteousness, of peace. Of so many things He talked, and He could talk because people were worthy of that. Otherwise, He could have said, "Alright. You do this, you do that, you do that." But see the difference, also in the circumstances, how what has happened: in the first circumstances when Abraham had problems then the people were absolutely good-for-nothing, absolutely good for nothing, so He didn’t know what to do with them. So only, you can see it, in the time of Abraham that His own lifestyle… I mean, that was just a system when the family was building up and the relationships were building up, and He tried to work it on that level.

Then at the time of Moses people evolved much more. They evolved. But still very ignorant. So they evolved to this point that He did not have to talk the things that Abraham talked. So He talked to them about getting out of Egypt, taking their freedom, getting out from there and going to a place of more tranquility.

So the people who were at the time of Moses, when He had gone to get the Ten Commandments, started indulging into very, very immoral character, extremely immoral character. They were very immoral and were doing such horrible things that nobody can believe that anybody who tried to escape from the Egyptians was worse than the Egyptians themselves. So He gave this Shariat to them, to change.

Now then came the time when people were… I mean, despite all that people were not so good, we can say at the time of Christ, but they were not so immoral; they also could not understand Christ.

So you see, despite all the human evolution, the human awareness evolving, the understanding about spirituality was very poor and you could not talk to them. Now you can also see the circumstances of things. When the circumstances are such, like at the time of, say Moses, that people are extremely immoral, they are doing all kinds of bad things, they are not bothered about their own destruction, the Incarnations had to move absolutely to the right because they were so left-sided: So the Incarnations had to move absolutely to the right and say that, "If you do like this, this We’ll have to do" the violence part. So they took to violence. (1989-05-24)

I’ve seen people fighting in the church, fighting in the mosque and fighting in the synagogues. Just imagine, from Abraham to Moses, Moses then to Christ, then to Mohammed-sahib, it’s a regular step by step forward movement. Even the sharia that Muslims are using doesn’t belong to them, was not given by Koran, but it is in the Bible, in the Jeremiah that Moses gave it to Jews. And the Jews said, "No, no. We’ll not have this one. It’s too much." Then the Christians said, "Oh, we can’t have." But the Muslims said, "All right, we’ll have it." It’s meant for Jews at the time Moses found them to be absolutely decadent. But does it help anyone? Now, if they believe in the abstract God, in the formless God, especially the Muslims, why should they fight for any country or any land? God is everywhere. (1995-09-19)

And these ten sustenances are represented by great prophets. The principle is called as Adi Guru, in the Sanskrit language, the Primordial Master. He has incarnated on this earth as Abraham, Moses, as Lao Tse, as Confucius, as Socrates, recently he has been as Sai Nath of Shirdi, not the other fellow, and other great people have been like Nanaka, Janaka. All these great saints came on this earth to tell us how to keep in the center, how to keep in the center, how to keep our sustenance, how to be human beings. As carbon has got four valances, we too have got ten valences. We have to maintain those ten valences within us, that’s what they came to tell us. (1981-03-25)

Moses, when he found Ten Commandments, actually he found those ten methods by which he was telling us that we should be able to keep our existence as human beings by following those Ten Commandments. Sustenance means the one we sustain within us. In Sanskrit language, it is called as ‘dharma‘. "Dharayeti sa dharma": the one which sustains within ourselves.

For example, if you take a carbon atom, it has got four valences (tetravalent). Anywhere you go and find any carbon atom from any carbon compound, you will find it will have four valences. Every element has the same property in all its atoms. That is the dharma.

You can say gold has the capacity or a dharma that it is untarnishable. If you see animals, they too have their sustenance. For example, you would not find a horse behaving like a donkey, or a lion behaving like a scorpion. That’s below the dignity of the lion to be a scorpion and a scorpion becoming a worm. The sustenance of these people [creatures] is kept up intact because they have not been given freedom to choose. Only at the human stage, God has given us freedom to choose our sustenance, to accept our sustenance as human beings. Only human beings have been given this freedom.

So a human being can be at a point, could be a scorpion or could be a lion. Human beings can be all animals put together, you don’t know, almost unpredictable. You don’t know which way they will react! He could be cunning like a wolf and he could be humble like a cow. (...)

To normalize you, all these great saints were born on this earth, in this void of the Big Primordial Being. And they exist within us, though they are not awakened as yet. We have had mainly ten of them. In India, we can call them, from a very long time as Adi Nath who was thousands of years back. I’ve told you Socrates, Moses, Abraham then Raja Janaka. Then we had, later on, Mohammed Sahib, then Nanaka, then the last one of them was Shirdi Sai Nath. He was another Primordial Master, a great one.

They are the incarnations of the One personality. They said the same thing and same thing and same thing – how to sustain yourself. Their job was not to give you realization but to sustain you. To make you capable of your realization. To make you a proper recipient of God’s blessings as realized souls. If the pot is not alright if it has all the holes in it, what’s the use of pouring the Ganges into it? So they clogged all the points and said that "This should not be done." But as we have messed up everything we have messed up them also. All of us! Whether you are English, Indians or this thing doesn’t matter. Whether you are Christians, Muslims or a Sikh or anything doesn’t matter. All of us have made a mess of them by just disobeying them. We have really disobeyed them because we have a freedom to disobey. We have molded them as we liked. (1980-06-13)

From Wikipedia

Moses is a prophet in Abrahamic religions. According to the Hebrew Bible, he was a former Egyptian prince who later in life became a religious leader and lawgiver, to whom the authorship of the Torah or acquisition of the Torah from Heaven is traditionally attributed. Also called Moshe Rabbenu in Hebrew (מֹשֶׁה רַבֵּנוּ, lit. "Moses our Teacher"), he is the most important prophet in Judaism. He is also an important prophet in Christianity, Islam as well as a number of other faiths.

According to the Book of Exodus, Moses was born at a time when his people, the Israelites, an enslaved minority, were increasing in numbers and the Egyptian Pharaoh was worried that they might ally themselves with Egypt's enemies. Moses' Hebrew mother, Jochebed, secretly hid him when the Pharaoh ordered all newborn Hebrew boys to be killed in order to reduce the population of the Israelites. Through the Pharaoh's daughter (identified as Queen Bithia in the Midrash), the child was adopted as a foundling from the Nile river and grew up with the Egyptian royal family. After killing an Egyptian slavemaster (because the slavemaster was smiting a Hebrew to death), Moses fled across the Red Sea to Midian, where he encountered The Angel of the Lord, speaking to him from within a burning bush on Mount Horeb (which he regarded as the Mountain of God).

God sent Moses back to Egypt to demand the release of the Israelites from slavery. Moses said that he could not speak with assurance or eloquence, so God allowed Aaron, his brother, to become his spokesperson. After the Ten Plagues, Moses led the Exodus of the Israelites out of Egypt and across the Red Sea, after which they based themselves at Mount Sinai, where Moses received the Ten Commandments. After 40 years of wandering in the desert, Moses died within sight of the Promised Land.

From Saints, Sufis, and Yogis

Moses probably lived in the 13th century BCE. He was a Jewish leader, prophet, and law-giver who led the Israelites out of Egypt and into the desert. Famous throughout history for delivering the Ten Commandments to his people.

Historical sources for the life of Moses are exclusively Jewish. The Ten Commandments occur in Exodus 20:1-17 and Deuteronomy 5:6-21; the Song of Miriam at the Sea of Reeds is in Exodus 15:21; the sayings about the ark in Numbers 10:15-36; and the Song of Sihon in Numbers 21:27-30. Nothing is known from Egyptian sources.

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi has stated that Moses was an incarnation of the Primordial Master, noting that:

Moses had (a) problem with people who were very indulgent people, so he had to pass laws of Shariat.... Moses had to pass these laws … to make the people follow religion precisely. So he did not argue, he did not say why you should do it, didn’t give any explanation. “You do it!” Like that.… The people who were at the time of Moses, when he had gone to get the Ten Commandments, started indulging into very, very immoral character, extremely immoral character. They were very immoral and were doing such horrible things that nobody can believe that anybody who tried to escape from the Egyptians were worse than the Egyptians themselves. So he gave this Shariat to them, to change. (1989-0524)

Bibliography: ‘Moses’ Encyclopedia Judaica (Jerusalem: Keter, 1971) v.12:371-411; Levi Meier, Moses - the Prince, the Prophet: his life, legend, and message for our lives (Woodstock, VT: Jewish Lights Publishers, 1998); Elias Auerbach, Moses (Detroit: Wayne State University Press, 1975); Shea Aranoff Tuchman and Sandra E.Rapoport, Moses' women (Jersey City, NJ: Ktav, 2008)

The Words of Moses

Hear, O Israel: The Lord, our God, is One Lord and you shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and all your soul and with all your might. [1] Maha Avatar, July-September 1981, page 29