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Question: what is the way of telling what is true and what is false, in terms of all the literature and all philosophies and all the writings. What is the in which you can tell the truth from falsehood? | Question: what is the way of telling what is true and what is false, in terms of all the literature and all philosophies and all the writings. What is the in which you can tell the truth from falsehood? | ||
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Shri Mataji: First of all, you see, you cannot judge so rationally, but logically you can find out who is a true master, like, we can say, Khalil Gibran. Khalil Gibran is, no doubt, because he talks of the meeting, not of the suffering, but of the meeting, of the joy and everything. Like that you can judge it logically, a little bit. | Shri Mataji: First of all, you see, you cannot judge so rationally, but logically you can find out who is a true master, like, we can say, Khalil Gibran. Khalil Gibran is, no doubt, because he talks of the meeting, not of the suffering, but of the meeting, of the joy and everything. Like that you can judge it logically, a little bit. | ||
A person who is | A person who is realized will just feel the vibrations of the book, immediately. I mean, they will just not look at it and run away, you just feel the heat. Sometimes you get blisters from some books, you will be amazed, some books give you blisters. The other day we went to a library because they had a library in that church, united church and I ran away from there, I said “There are no good books in this, only one or two are there” [..]. You can get blisters also from them. ([http://www.amruta.org/1981/10/09/first-public-program-in-vancouver-1981/ 1981-10-09]) | ||
Don has already spoken so authentically about Self-realization, that some of you must be wondering what sort of a gimmick we are up to. But one has to understand that only a person who is there can talk that authentically, or a person who is a complete hoax. It has to be two extremes. A person, who says maybe, may not be, perhaps, it is so or somebody who sings about his separation and his pains are definitely not there, because if you have met the truth, if you have seen the reality then you speak like Christ, “I am the light, I am the path”. You speak like Shri Krishna, “Sarva Dharman parityajya maam ekam sharanam vraja”?. Means give up all the religions; religions mean outside seeking and follow me. | |||
The authenticity comes from the feeling, or we can say the feeling of authenticity itself. Unless and until you have achieved it, you do not speak like that – your language is different. Like, many poets and many even devotees of God have sung the song, “oh God, when are you going to meet us?” As long as they are singing such songs, then you should know they are not realized, souls. But we have lots of poets, you too have Blake. We had a poet like Kabir. Many poets like this have sung the song where they said, “this is it. You better come up and have it” and all such people who have spoken like this are the people who have achieved it. | |||
We can say in modern times Kahlil Gibran I’m told you people study. He was one of them. We can say Zen is also the same thing. There are so many people who have said this. Mohammed was the same. All these scriptures which are written after these great incarnations on this earth, all of them are saying the same thing that they have achieved it and that you have to achieve it. All of them say that you are to be re-born. I do not know how in any religion people have given up this idea of being re-born. Nobody has gone to the seeking of it, especially when they have organized religions. They have never bothered to find out what is it talking about? It is taking about a re-birth even, even in the Bible. Not going to church, coming home and saying your hymns and finished. That can never, never satisfy our spiritual urge, which is much stronger, much stronger than this kind of little bits of foods given to us. Unless and until we have achieved that goal, we are not going to be satisfied. We have to understand [although ‘to understand’ is grammatically correct but Shri Mataji is actually saying ‘to understood’] ourselves and we must have our self-esteem. ([http://www.amruta.org/1980/07/15/the-wonderful-message-cambridge-1980/ 1980-07-15]) | |||
Buddha has failed, Christ has failed, Mohammed-sahib has failed because people never understood them. They were too great for the human mind. So the first thing I did was to study human beings for about forty-seven years of My age and I saw how complicated they were and then I found out this method of en masse Realization. There were many Sufis who got Realization. There were many Saints in India who got Realization, but very, very few. Also, among Christians, there were some who got Realization – Kahlil Gibran. But they were all tortured. ([http://www.amruta.org/1995/09/19/medical-conference-in-st-petersburg-1995/ 1995-09-19]) | |||
Buddha has failed, Christ has failed, Mohammed-sahib has failed because people never understood them. They were too great for human mind. So the first thing I did was to study human beings for about forty-seven years of My age and I saw how complicated they were and then I found out this method of en masse Realization. There were many Sufis who got Realization. There were many Saints in India who got Realization, but very, very few. Also, among Christians, there were some who got Realization – Kahlil Gibran. But they were all tortured. | |||
http://www.amruta.org/1995/09/19/medical-conference-in-st-petersburg-1995/ | |||
Audience: Inaudible. We have all grown up from Catholic education or Protestant education so apart from the bible what else should we be reading? | Audience: Inaudible. We have all grown up from Catholic education or Protestant education so apart from the bible what else should we be reading? | ||
Shri Mataji: Must you read? Must you read? Better give up reading. As it is your eyesight is very weak. Better not read. What is the need to read? You read your sum, you read in Sahaja Yoga. What is the need to read? If you have to read, read Khalil Gibran, you read so many things of the Goddess. These things you must read if you have to read. But try to read less. I think you people are read, over read. First it should be emptied then you should read | Shri Mataji: Must you read? Must you read? Better give up reading. As it is your eyesight is very weak. Better not read. What is the need to read? You read your sum, you read in Sahaja Yoga. What is the need to read? If you have to read, read Khalil Gibran, you read so many things of the Goddess. These things you must read if you have to read. But try to read less. I think you people are read, over read. First, it should be emptied then you should read something sensible. Because they read read read read read. They read too much in the west. Anything sells, whichever is printed. You should reduce reading. It is too much. I never read. I have no time to read anything. What is there to read? You can read within ourselves, there is a library within ourselves. ([http://www.amruta.org/1982/02/06/action-and-desire-niphad-1982/ 1982-02-06]) | ||
http://www.amruta.org/1982/02/06/action-and-desire-niphad-1982/ | |||
Becoming is the point. What you become on your central nervous system. That is the evolutionary impact. When we evolve from animal to human state it is expressed in our central nervous system. For example, if you have to take a dog through a dirty lane, he has no objection, he just walks through. But we cannot go. Now you bring a dog here in a good garden, he’s quite happy, he doesn’t know whether it is a beautiful garden of flowers or it’s a dirty lane. But for a human being, this awareness is there and he can feel it. Now to human beings if you talk of sin this that, they don’t understand. They’ll say, “What’s wrong? What’s wrong?” “If I kill somebody what’s wrong?” “If I do like this what’s wrong?” Because the awareness is at that level. But Christ, would He do such a thing? Buddha, would He do such a thing? Khalil Gibran, would he do such a thing? William Blake? No, why? Because they are above us and their sense and sensitivity has developed in such a manner that they are the people who know what is right and what is wrong. ([http://www.amruta.org/1984/08/02/public-program-in-leicester-1984/ 1984-08-02)] | |||
http://www.amruta.org/1985/11/28/william-blake-london-1985/ | Strict rules of anything, imposed on people who are not realized souls, can push them into some sort of problems, they can become criminals, they can become violent as a reaction and we see the reaction today acting, that the hypocrisy of the whole thing is exposed. Like in India or anywhere else, they will say, “You should not be attached to money, give the money to the church, to the temple, to the mosque, to all the people to enjoy it.” The kind of life people led in those days in the name of God was no model for anyone and that’s how poets like Him were born again and again. I would say that in Lebanon a great poet, like Kahlil Gibran, was born, and then in India we had so many such poets, who just lashed the society and lashed all these ideas of the intellectuals, the ideas of the religions, the ones who were trying to curb them. Because there was no genuineness, there was no sincerity. If we are honest people, we really mean it, then let us face it and see for ourselves what we have to achieve. ([http://www.amruta.org/1985/11/28/william-blake-london-1985/ 1985-11-28]) | ||
So when you are | So when you are developed still you see the Kundalini rising, you see the pulsation in the triangular bone. You can see with your naked eye the pulsation here. You can with stethoscope – can see the pulsation just like the heart : “Lap, lap”. Going up to that point and you can see the beaking of this because the bones here become soft. You see it with your naked eyes but still you go on doubting about it. You still start analyzing it. It would be something like I give you a nice cake to eat and you sit down with your analysis. It’s so absurd as if an egg has to go to the library to find out how to fly or become a bird. | ||
http://www.amruta.org/1980/04/29/pure-intelligence-geneve-1980/ | We had a great poet Kabir he said : “Padi, Padi pandit murakh bahe” meaning: “By reading these great educated people have become stupid.” He was very very straight. He has said by shaving your head or by wearing your crown if you can go to God then what about the sheep which is shaved twice a year? All such beautiful things he has said and then you start understanding the great poets like Khalil Gibran and all such poets which have reached the state of oneness with God. After Realization you share their joy and understand. ([http://www.amruta.org/1980/04/29/pure-intelligence-geneve-1980/ 1980-04-29]) | ||
==From Wikipedia== | ==From Wikipedia== |
Latest revision as of 15:48, 3 January 2017
Question: what is the way of telling what is true and what is false, in terms of all the literature and all philosophies and all the writings. What is the in which you can tell the truth from falsehood?
Shri Mataji: First of all, you see, you cannot judge so rationally, but logically you can find out who is a true master, like, we can say, Khalil Gibran. Khalil Gibran is, no doubt, because he talks of the meeting, not of the suffering, but of the meeting, of the joy and everything. Like that you can judge it logically, a little bit.
A person who is realized will just feel the vibrations of the book, immediately. I mean, they will just not look at it and run away, you just feel the heat. Sometimes you get blisters from some books, you will be amazed, some books give you blisters. The other day we went to a library because they had a library in that church, united church and I ran away from there, I said “There are no good books in this, only one or two are there” [..]. You can get blisters also from them. (1981-10-09)
Don has already spoken so authentically about Self-realization, that some of you must be wondering what sort of a gimmick we are up to. But one has to understand that only a person who is there can talk that authentically, or a person who is a complete hoax. It has to be two extremes. A person, who says maybe, may not be, perhaps, it is so or somebody who sings about his separation and his pains are definitely not there, because if you have met the truth, if you have seen the reality then you speak like Christ, “I am the light, I am the path”. You speak like Shri Krishna, “Sarva Dharman parityajya maam ekam sharanam vraja”?. Means give up all the religions; religions mean outside seeking and follow me.
The authenticity comes from the feeling, or we can say the feeling of authenticity itself. Unless and until you have achieved it, you do not speak like that – your language is different. Like, many poets and many even devotees of God have sung the song, “oh God, when are you going to meet us?” As long as they are singing such songs, then you should know they are not realized, souls. But we have lots of poets, you too have Blake. We had a poet like Kabir. Many poets like this have sung the song where they said, “this is it. You better come up and have it” and all such people who have spoken like this are the people who have achieved it.
We can say in modern times Kahlil Gibran I’m told you people study. He was one of them. We can say Zen is also the same thing. There are so many people who have said this. Mohammed was the same. All these scriptures which are written after these great incarnations on this earth, all of them are saying the same thing that they have achieved it and that you have to achieve it. All of them say that you are to be re-born. I do not know how in any religion people have given up this idea of being re-born. Nobody has gone to the seeking of it, especially when they have organized religions. They have never bothered to find out what is it talking about? It is taking about a re-birth even, even in the Bible. Not going to church, coming home and saying your hymns and finished. That can never, never satisfy our spiritual urge, which is much stronger, much stronger than this kind of little bits of foods given to us. Unless and until we have achieved that goal, we are not going to be satisfied. We have to understand [although ‘to understand’ is grammatically correct but Shri Mataji is actually saying ‘to understood’] ourselves and we must have our self-esteem. (1980-07-15)
Buddha has failed, Christ has failed, Mohammed-sahib has failed because people never understood them. They were too great for the human mind. So the first thing I did was to study human beings for about forty-seven years of My age and I saw how complicated they were and then I found out this method of en masse Realization. There were many Sufis who got Realization. There were many Saints in India who got Realization, but very, very few. Also, among Christians, there were some who got Realization – Kahlil Gibran. But they were all tortured. (1995-09-19)
Audience: Inaudible. We have all grown up from Catholic education or Protestant education so apart from the bible what else should we be reading?
Shri Mataji: Must you read? Must you read? Better give up reading. As it is your eyesight is very weak. Better not read. What is the need to read? You read your sum, you read in Sahaja Yoga. What is the need to read? If you have to read, read Khalil Gibran, you read so many things of the Goddess. These things you must read if you have to read. But try to read less. I think you people are read, over read. First, it should be emptied then you should read something sensible. Because they read read read read read. They read too much in the west. Anything sells, whichever is printed. You should reduce reading. It is too much. I never read. I have no time to read anything. What is there to read? You can read within ourselves, there is a library within ourselves. (1982-02-06)
Becoming is the point. What you become on your central nervous system. That is the evolutionary impact. When we evolve from animal to human state it is expressed in our central nervous system. For example, if you have to take a dog through a dirty lane, he has no objection, he just walks through. But we cannot go. Now you bring a dog here in a good garden, he’s quite happy, he doesn’t know whether it is a beautiful garden of flowers or it’s a dirty lane. But for a human being, this awareness is there and he can feel it. Now to human beings if you talk of sin this that, they don’t understand. They’ll say, “What’s wrong? What’s wrong?” “If I kill somebody what’s wrong?” “If I do like this what’s wrong?” Because the awareness is at that level. But Christ, would He do such a thing? Buddha, would He do such a thing? Khalil Gibran, would he do such a thing? William Blake? No, why? Because they are above us and their sense and sensitivity has developed in such a manner that they are the people who know what is right and what is wrong. (1984-08-02)
Strict rules of anything, imposed on people who are not realized souls, can push them into some sort of problems, they can become criminals, they can become violent as a reaction and we see the reaction today acting, that the hypocrisy of the whole thing is exposed. Like in India or anywhere else, they will say, “You should not be attached to money, give the money to the church, to the temple, to the mosque, to all the people to enjoy it.” The kind of life people led in those days in the name of God was no model for anyone and that’s how poets like Him were born again and again. I would say that in Lebanon a great poet, like Kahlil Gibran, was born, and then in India we had so many such poets, who just lashed the society and lashed all these ideas of the intellectuals, the ideas of the religions, the ones who were trying to curb them. Because there was no genuineness, there was no sincerity. If we are honest people, we really mean it, then let us face it and see for ourselves what we have to achieve. (1985-11-28)
So when you are developed still you see the Kundalini rising, you see the pulsation in the triangular bone. You can see with your naked eye the pulsation here. You can with stethoscope – can see the pulsation just like the heart : “Lap, lap”. Going up to that point and you can see the beaking of this because the bones here become soft. You see it with your naked eyes but still you go on doubting about it. You still start analyzing it. It would be something like I give you a nice cake to eat and you sit down with your analysis. It’s so absurd as if an egg has to go to the library to find out how to fly or become a bird.
We had a great poet Kabir he said : “Padi, Padi pandit murakh bahe” meaning: “By reading these great educated people have become stupid.” He was very very straight. He has said by shaving your head or by wearing your crown if you can go to God then what about the sheep which is shaved twice a year? All such beautiful things he has said and then you start understanding the great poets like Khalil Gibran and all such poets which have reached the state of oneness with God. After Realization you share their joy and understand. (1980-04-29)
From Wikipedia
Kahlil Gibran (January 6, 1883 – April 10, 1931) was a Lebanese-American artist, poet, and writer.
Gibran was born in the town of Bsharri in the Mount Lebanon Mutasarrifate, Ottoman Empire (north of modern-day Lebanon), to Khalil Gibran and Kamila Gibran (Rahmeh). As a young man Gibran immigrated with his family to the United States, where he studied art and began his literary career, writing in both English and Arabic. In the Arab world, Gibran is regarded as a literary and political rebel. His romantic style was at the heart of a renaissance in modern Arabic literature, especially prose poetry, breaking away from the classical school. In Lebanon, he is still celebrated as a literary hero.
He is chiefly known in the English-speaking world for his 1923 book The Prophet, an early example of inspirational fiction including a series of philosophical essays written in poetic English prose. The book sold well despite a cool critical reception, gaining popularity in the 1930s and again especially in the 1960s counterculture. Gibran is the third best-selling poet of all time, behind Shakespeare and Laozi.